what was that? is that all there is? who is this? this is it.

Replying to Alistair, who said...

Grant P used to rave about Winkel in the early days of Rivendell. All the Riv wheels came from Winkel wheel in those days, I think they were located in Kent? Pretty sure they got bought out by Vision recumbents, then Vision went under in the early 2000's and that was the end of that.

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